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Ill be the first one to say it. There was a reason why this officer was acquitted. Does this look premeditated to anybody? This officer had a split second (maybe) to make a life and death decision here and he did what he felt he had to to protect himself and his partner. I am disgusted that he was fired by his dept after being acquitted and as usual the domestic terrorist organization BLM is up in arms again. Instead of his chief standing behind his officer, he fired him for political expediency. The officer is obviously undergoing an extreme stress event here, hence his tone of voice, words etc. Here’s an idea, if you are lawfully carrying a firearm and are pulled over, DONT REACH FOR THE GUN! How simple is that? But once again, facts be damned this cop was “looking to shoot a black person”. . Its tragic that this happened yes, but for the deceased to have reached for a gun after saying “I have a firearm” is just stupid. But I guess none of that matters here because, by God the the guy was black. Here’s another idea, perhaps police administrators should try standing behind their officers and deputies for a change instead of being politicians in a uniform and capitulating to terrorist groups like BLM. Maybe police administrators should try being actual leaders (I know its difficult but try). This officers career was ended not because he did anything wrong, but because it was politically expedient for a police chief to fire him. If he had done something wrong the grand jury would have indicted him. They didn’t. We wonder why we cant get people to want to do this job anymore, well here’s a shining example. This officers career, like Darren Wilson’s career, was ended not because of misconduct but because as Lt Glennon said, we have a crisis of leadership and until we solve that in this profession, we will have a crisis of staffing.
BS followed by more BS followed by excuses. Yanez’s commands, after told of weapon and licence, was to produce driver’s licence. Castille complied, and was killed for it. That he was acquitted is a miscarriage of justice. But in our times, when it comes to OIS, justice is not to be expected. The most a cop looses is his job, when he/she murders a civilian. Most patrol cops are just plain cowards, as Yanez is.
Dmitry you have never been a cop but yet feel that you know everything about this job. It’s amazing to me that you are an expert on a subject you NOTHING about and have never done but have no qualms about codemning without hesitation those of us who do the job.
You might want to go back on watch the video again Dmitri, your order of the facts in incorrect. The officer asks Castille for his license (drivers license) and insurance at 1:24 in the video. There has been no mention of a weapon by Castille at that point. At 1:32, Castille hands the officer something, not sure if it’s the license and insurance or only one or the other. At 1:36/1:37 Castille informs the officer that he has a firearm. Over the next few seconds the officer says “OK, don’t reach for it then, don’t pull it out, DON’T PULL IT OUT!!” as he begins to struggle with Castille through the window of the vehicle. At 1:43 shots are fired.
You said “Yanez’s commands, after told of weapon and licence, was to produce driver’s licence.” That is clearly incorrect. The request for the license was well before the mention of a firearm. The only commands given by the officer after that were for Castille to stop what he was doing. Now we can’t see what Castille is doing at that moment but it is apparent and logical to believe that he was doing something. Maybe Castille was simply reaching for his ID and/or his carry permit as the girlfriend claimed in the video. But if that was Castille’s intent, then as soon as the officer says “Don’t reach for it” his hands should have frozen.
Furthermore, the officer didn’t just tell Castille not to reach for it and then start shooting. He gave him three commands (“Don’t reach for it”, “Don’t pull it out”, “Don’t pull it out!!”) while at the same time he was physically struggling with Castille trying to control his movements. So Castille is doing something during those brief seconds that was contrary to what the officer was telling him to do.
Look, I know there is probably nothing I can say that will change your mind and I’m probably wasting my time. But I’ll try one more thing. Put yourself in the shoes of the officer for just a moment. I’m the driver in the car. I’ve just told you I have a gun. You tell me not to reach for it but despite that I’m reaching for something. You tell me again in a louder voice not to reach for it. But I’m still reaching. How long are you going to wait before you do something? Are you going to wait until you can definitively see what it is I’m reaching for, like when I it in my hand and I’m bring it up? Maybe it is just my license. In order for this experiment to work Dmitri, you’ve got to commit to it. You’ve got to really understand that if you’re wrong, if it’s not my license, if instead it’s my gun, it might mean your life. How long are you going to wait?
A jury of 12 heard and saw all the evidence. They reached a conclusion that you don’t like. Do you prefer mob rule?
When ot comes to OIS, or severe police misconduct, jury nullification is far far more prevalent , then in other criminal cases. Officers who assaulted Rodney King were aquitted in California, but found guilty in Federal trials. NYPD officers, of elite Street Crimes unit, were found acquitted for murdering Amadou Diallo. Justin Volpe, who anally violated a handcuffed suspect, in Precinct bathroom, with toilet plunger handle, left him to bleed out, having perforated suspect’s colon, was not prosecuted or acquitted by State trial. It took Federal trial to put him away for 34 years.
NOLA PD officers, who executed, unarmed civilians during Katrina, were aquitted in LA State trials. It took Feds to deal with them.
Few days ago, former Ofc. Tenzing had 2nd deg. murder charges , against him dropped, after two mistrials, that ended with hung jury. The jury members, told prosecutor, that regardless of evidence, they were not going to find Tenzing guilty.
When it comes to OIS, murders by police, or serious police misconduct, justice is NOT to be expected. Our society would get more justice if these , otherwise guilty, officers are dealt with mob justice. That at least would create some deterrent in officer’s mind.
Similar outcome is expected for MPD Officer who shot a white woman, who called 911.
I hold to this truth, “When a man cannot get or expect justice, he will have to settle for something less then justice. He will have to settle for revenge.”
I appreciate your impassioned post, but the unfortunate reality is that anyone above the rank of Lt. is nothing more than a politician…they have forgotten what it was to be a street cop and have learned to pad their own resumes…they don’t care about street cops, if they ever did, and are solely in the business of promoting themselves at the expense of some really good folks…
If Officer YANEZ had any real chance to overcome this and the emotional ordeal he must be going through, being thrown under the bus by those who he trusted to have his best interests at heart, will make that pain process just that more difficult…
I’m sorry that someone lost their life, but I’m just as sorry that Officer YANEZ lost his as well…
Stay Safe!!
You are such a POS! Castile lost his life! Yanez, the sniveling crying coward that he is, lost his job. Kill a man , loose a job. Yep, we definitely hold cops to a higher standard.
Condition black.
Race card on 2nd comment? Do you REALLY think had this driver been white, and told the cop he had a gun, and the cop tells him 3 times DON’T REACH FOR IT, and he reached for it, do you REALLY think that cop wouldn’t have shot him because he was white? Did the lady get shot? NO. WHY? Because when she was told to put her hands up, she did so immediately. No threat = not shot. Reaching for the gun you just told the cop you had and ignoring three commands to NOT REACH FOR THE GUN = THREAT. No cop of ANY color, is going to let ANY person of ANY color get their hands on a weapon or shoot him. Period. I ain’t saying there ain’t some crooked cops out there, but THIS wasn’t a racial shooting. If the cop was gonna murder this guy because he was black, then he would’ve said his g/f was reaching for the gun too and shot her. If you want people to stop stereotyping and assuming things about blacks, then stop stop stereotyping and assuming things about others.
What is scary is that YOU think my comment is racist. Can I suggest you read “On Combat” by David Grossman.
You’re right. I assumed ‘code black’ was the same as ‘code maria’ for Hispanic applicants. I should have asked for clarification.
Sheepdog’s comment is not racial in nature. It comes from a spin-off on mind set & mental conditioning lectures. While the foundational version uses only white, yellow, orange, & red others have added black to indicate panic. Whether I agree with the assessment or not is immaterial, I’m merely confirming this was not a race based comment.
Message from LEO proffesion to citizens of these United States.
“Obey, comply, or DIE”
Message sent, message received. Proper reply is across the board disobedience and resistance the police. This injustice cannot be allowed to stand , and I fear has become the norm. I can only hope that Federal Government charges Yanez with civil rights violations.
Recall case of NYPD Ofc. Justin Volpe. He an ally violated handcuffed suspect in a precinct hq, with a plunger handle. Then left suspect to bleed out in the bathroom. He was not brought to trial in neither City, nor State of NY. It took Federal prosecution to put him in Fed lockup for 34 years.
Actually, the message is, don’t point, or reach for your gun when I’m telling you to stop reaching for it. The compliance steps are ‘Ask, Tell, Make” its the criminal fault if it gets to the’ make’ level.
Like I said, the lady didn’t get shot, no knee to the neck, not tazed, and not body slammed… Because she complied with ‘Ask’… That’s how it works.
Castille complied. He was instructed to produce DL , registration, and insurance. Usually kept in wallet, which usually kept in a pocket. In essence he was kiled in course of his compliance. His acquittal is a gross miscarriage of justice. Which is all to common when it comes to LEO using deadly force on a citizen. When it comes to holding police officer for unlawfully taking a citizen’s life, justice is not to be expected. My view is that we have to settle for something less then justice. That something is revenge, retaliation, retribution.
You are a clown. And, an obvious Cop-hater. Your comments are typical of both types, yet your continued “expert” commentary shows a devotion to fictional Cop shows.
Does your common-sense compute a different outcome, if Castile had his papers out before the Officers approached? Common sense is probably quite a leap; you’d better get back to a commentary site where you have some insight to share.
When a cop is pointing his firearm at you, and YELLING “Don’t reach for it” WHY would he continue to go for his wallet? I would stay absolutely still, with my hands in plain sight, not moving towards anything. People get shot by the cops because they FAIL to follow instructions. His GF did EXACTLY what she was told, and did it immediately. She didn’t get tased, bum rushed, or shot. Go figure.
Andy, it was a nice attempt on your part, but just like I told USMC0311, don’t feed the trolls…that poster is on a cop’s website designed to keep cops safe and aware for over (30) years and all the poster does is rant nonsensical ridiculousness born out of ignorance and sheer hate for those who stand in the arena…
“hate, hate, hate,” “the citizenry will stand you down,” “blah, blah, blah” “a real cop would wait until (17)-(18) rounds have been pumped into his chest before reacting because the fleeing felon didn’t really have any intent to kill”…numerous folks have tried, but this basement dweller just wants to spew nonsense…your arguments were spot on, BRAVO! But unfortunately you’re wasting your precious time with “it”…
My advice is to just ignore it as others have done and hopefully it will find a more suitable hobby for its limited life experience…”I know, let’s have a spelling contest (that line still cracks me up)”…
That nameless poster has already taken up too much time…
Stay Safe!!
When Castille’s girlfriend was instructed, it was by a different, more senior, obviously more professional, officer who was assisted by five others. When Yanez was alone, though his partner was on the other of the car in covering position, he panicked, and lost his shit. He was the only one panicking. His partner did not appear to have drawn his weapon, at least not prior to Yanez’s shoot. Castille was all together.
This line, a get out jail free card , “In fear for my life and that of my partner” as an almost automatic response, and a mostly fool-proof way to escape accountability for unnecessarily taking a life, is poison to police profession. You don’t make split second decisions, you (collectively LEO) default to shoot. Then rely on trifecta of police unions, biased (toward LEO) Justice system, shopped jurors , and bad policy to allow a killer cops to walk. When it comes to OIS, justice is not to be expected.
For Yanez train of thought, as per his testimony , that “If he (Castille) was willing to endanger those around him, by smoking weed (none was found), he certainly would have no problem shooting me.” as justification for shooting Castille is beyond absurd.
I make a prediction in CPD murder of Laquan McDobnald, that there will no guilty verdicts. Not for the shooter , not for 3 senior CPD officers who participated in the subsequent coverup. They may loose their jobs, or be forced into retirement, but there would be no justice for the victim.
Yes. If a guy with a gun starts reaching for what I think is a gun, he will get shot. If he DOESN’T want to get shot, he will FOLLOW MY ORDERS to keep his hands where I can see them, make NO SUDDEN movements, and STOP REACHING for anything. Even if the driver WAS reaching for his wallet, the cop said STOP REACHING. So you STOP. Yes, If he says he’s got a gun, and he refuses to STOP REACHING, I will ABSOLUTELY fear for my life, my partner’s life, and the life of anyone else who might get injured. There is NO law in ANY state that says you must wait until a bad guy’s weapon is pointed at you before you can defend yourself. There is NO law in ANY state that says you must let a bad guy try to kill you before you can defend yourself. Let me tell you why people are getting shot by the police. If a black man in today’s society “thinks” that cops are out to kill him, WHY Are you reaching for anything???! If I thought the cops were out to get me because of MY skin color, MY hands wouldn’t come off that steering wheel until I was ordered to produce my license and registration. Even then, I would move SO SLOW, that the cop would think he was gonna miss half a night’s sleep waiting for me to show him my I.D. If ANYONE really thinks cops are out to “get them” WHY on God’s green Earth would you make it ANY EASIER for them to do exactly that???? FOLLOW the freaking instructions, and you will live. Start reaching for something after declaring you got a gun, or pointing weapons at cops, or grabbing for a cop’s gun, and you will get shot. And it does not matter what your skin color is, because every cop wants to go home, and no white guy is gonna be given an extra ten seconds to grab a gun because he’s white.
You are not squaring a circle. Let me do it for you. Methinks you are LSS. Here’s why. If the individual is moving too slow, you’ll likely to arrest the guy , or shoot, for noncompliance. Then use same justification for OIS. LEO proffesion, at municipal level (county, city, or village), suffers from two shortcomings found in the patrol officers.
First is cowardice. Second is lack of integrity and any sense of honor. The second is used to cover or justify the first. That is why I hold the proffesion in contempt. I experienced it when I was growing up in Chicago area, then observed it , in interaction of local law enforcement with military personnel in Lawton, OK, Columbus, GA, Local AL sherrif’s departments.
Don’t move too fast, don’t move to slow, don’t look them in the eye, don’t fidget. Basically same behaviours one must not practice when dealing with animal predators in the wild.
Do you honestly think a cop would shoot a suspect for moving too slow? Gimme a break. Slow is always better. Maybe in your make believe world where whatever you say is fact. Can’t say in my time I’ve ever heard of a cop shooting a suspect for non-compliance. Taser, OC, baton, hands on, sure. The only cop that would shoot a suspect for following orders to put their hands in plain sight too slow, or instructions to grab their wallet really slowly, is the one in your head. I’d love to see even a single case involving this.Not sure the cops that you’ve kept company with, but with the exception of the bad apples in EVERY race, every profession, and every culture, the law enforcement community I’ve been a part of for well over a decade holds integrity, honor and courage higher than anything else. Again, the world inside your head is only inside your head. Ironic you compare cops to predators when their are more blacks killing blacks than cops killing blacks. We all know who the real predators are.
Yes. The justification is noncompliance.
Non-compliance is NOT complying. Complying slowly is complying slowly, but still complying. If a suspect is ordered to “get down, and prone out” and he starts getting down, slowly, but still getting down, he is complying to the order, albeit slowly. He might get helped to the ground if he takes too long and is being an ass, but usually, compliance, even slow compliance, is a positive sign (unless they are buying time to reach for a weapon or waiting for the cop to lose focus on the suspect, which is why there should always be at least one officer ready to shoot, should something happen during pat down, cuffing, or quick cursory search.
Andy, I don’t know who Sheepdog is, but Condition Black has to do with Officer YANEZ’S “blacking out” on the rainbow of conditions such as Condition Yellow, Condition Red, Condition Orange, etc…
Of course, after I posted this I saw the posts back and forth between you two…
One observation … we, as trainers, need to do a better job of including post-use of force actions and behaviors in our reality-based and scenario training.
I also have a disagreement with the tactics involved. However, I am not from that part of the country so I do not know what is their norm for dealing with armed subject(s) inside a vehicle. That is both the agency and those around it.
Does anyone know if the transcripts of Officer Yanez’s post-OIS interview have been released? What about those of the back-up officer?
I am a Law Enforcement Officer and a Police Motorcycle Officer. I have done thousands of traffic stops in my 23 years of law enforcement. When I encounter a driver who tells me they have a gun in the car after I have asked them for their driver license, registration and insurance, I tell them to stop and do not reach for their driver license and order them to put their hands on the steering wheel. Once they comply, I immediately asked questions as to where is the gun located and where is their driver license. As an officer, you have to understand that when you tell a citizen to provide those documents to you, they are doing as they are told. The citizens who are law biding in their minds they do not understand that some of their actions maybe harmless or innocent to them, but to a Police Officer could be alarming and dangerous. We as law enforcement officers need to do a better job dealing with citizens during traffic stop interactions with the understanding and assumption that the person you are dealing with has no clue on what to do when stopped by Police during a traffic stop. While some of you on here feel this officer did the right thing, I believe he could have done certain things different at the beginning of this stop based on my training and experience. Let us as law enforcement officers use his video to learn from and help teach and train other officers on how we can do a better and safer job when handling citizens on traffic stops. Remember, just because you stopped a citizen during a traffic stop does not mean they know exactly what to do when they are stopped by the Police. You average law abiding citizen feels since they are a law abiding citizen, then they can do anything they want while inside their own vehicle such as reaching in their consoles, purses, back seat etc. to have those documents ready for the officer as he or she approach them or getting them once being told by the Officer to do so. They may or may not know that these movements are and can be alarming or threatening to a Police Officer. Once Officer Yanez approached the vehicle, he could have given Mr. Castile and his female passenger verbal commands to place their hands on the steering wheel and dashboard while placing himself in a tactical position. Officer Yanez could have controlled the stop before engaging in a conversation with Mr. Castile. I prefer the passenger side approach, but some officers like the driver side approach. I prefer the passenger side because it gets me out of traffic (I do not need my attention divided on the driver and worrying about oncoming vehicles passing by me). I can see inside the vehicle better from a tactical stand point when I ask the driver for his driver license, registration and insurance since most if not all have to reach across to the passenger side console or center console to retrieve those items. We can possibly assume that nothing would have changed as far as Mr. Castile informing Officer Yanez that he was carrying a gun in the car and has a permit to carry it. If Officer Yanez had control of Mr. Castile and his passenger from the start of this traffic stop, then he could have asked Mr. Castile questions related to the gun, its location, his driver license and its location without Mr. Castile attempting to reach for his driver license as he was doing based on Officer Yanez requesting him to do. If the gun was located inside the vehicle, then with the help of informing his backup they could have coordinated a system to safely removed the gun from the vehicle or removed Mr. Castile and his passenger away from the gun through verbal commands advising Mr. Castile and his passenger on exactly what to do and what not to do especially with a child in the car. I know there have been situations where a citizen has told an officer that they have a gun inside the car and reach for it with the intent on using it against the officer. However, not all of your law abiding citizens with or without a gun carry permit will reach for the gun after telling you that they have one knowing they could get shot. Not to say that cannot ever happen. In the same breath, your non law abiding citizens such has criminals of all walks of life and races will never tell an officer that they have a gun in the car because they do not want Police to know that they even have one. Or worse, they try to use it against us when they get the chance to do so. To me, that is when your tactical approach and verbal commands play a major role in handling a traffic stop and dealing with citizens. I am not talking about the actual shooting, but the beginning of this traffic stop and what can be improved on or done differently moving forward. Only God, Officer Yanez and Mr. Castile knows what truly occurred just before the shooting as far what Mr. Castile was actually reaching for. I am not and in no way questioning actions of the shooting. I am only talking about things that could have been done differently or better at the beginning of this traffic stop that could have possibly prevented the situation from escalating. When we give verbal commands, we as law enforcement needs to do a better job in saying exactly what it is we are ordering that person to do during a traffic stop. If we have told them to provide us their documents and they inform us of a weapon in the car as they are reaching for those documents, then when you are giving verbal commands those commands need to be clear on what exactly you do not want them to do. For example, “Stop, do not reach for your driver license! Place your hands back on the steering wheel and tell me where the gun is located!” Think about this statement for a second. If you tell a citizen to provide you their driver license, they are reaching to get it and in the process tell you they have a gun in the car and you start telling them, “Don’t reach for it” or “Don’t grab it”, then a reasonable person can assume that you mean do not reach for the gun. However, in there mind, they are reaching for their license and not the gun. I was trained that when you are giving verbal commands you need to be clear on exactly what you want that citizen to do and never assume that they know what you mean by “Don’t reach for it” versus “Stop! Don’t reach for the gun” or “Stop! Don’t reach for your driver license”. It may seem minor or picky to some, but for me it has worked and kept a situation from getting worse. Now, I am in no way saying my way is perfect or the way to go, but it works for me. I am also always thinking of ways to improve or do things better when I think back on each of my traffic stops and I use them to help me grow as an officer. We can always improve on the things we do if we take the time to think and self-evaluate ourselves after traffic stops or other encounters when dealing with citizens. This goes for citizens as well, but the likelihood of a citizen doing that versus us is little to none especially if they do not get stopped often by a Police Officer.
All I am saying is everything we do in our law enforcement careers can be improved and done differently. That is why we train. Experience is the best tool along with better training. If we as law enforcement officers do not have the vision to improve on the way we do things and improve on your training, then we still have a long way to go in law enforcement in bridging that trust gap between ourselves and the communities we serve and protect. We must do a better job with educating our citizens in our communities. With the help of educating them on why we do the things that we do, then hopefully we as law enforcement officers and citizens will not be placed in situations like this in the future. Stay safe and God bless you all to my brothers and sisters in Blue and Green!
May God bless the Castile Family and the Yanez Family and my heart goes out to both. Both families have suffered in this life changing situation.
This is a total bad shoot their is even a second back up officer. The officer should, have fallen back and yelled gun to the second officer. Why are modern day police officer so quick to draw and shoot their weapons, weapons should always be last resort. I don’t know how he was acquitted. this is an unjustified bad shoot.I am a 25v year sheriff veteran..The guy said he had a gun. a guy who is going to shoot will not tell the officer he has a gun
Phil, don’t be a Monday Morning Quarterback…either you have never been put in this type of situation, or you watch too much TV news and/or bad Hollywood movies…someone grabs a gun they have on their person in that close of quarters to a police officer is looking for a confrontation… there isn’t enough time to fall back, the situation unfolded within arm’s length of each other…watch that video again and time how fast it is from the point where Officer YANEZ tells the driver to not grab the gun to the point where the shooting starts…this stuff happens too fast and too many cops have been killed while “falling back” instead of engaging the threat…
Sorry you feel it’s a “total bad shoot,” but that comes from you not understanding the situation completely…I’m going to assume you do not have any close quarter combat training based on your comments and therefore you can’t image what happened even though you saw it…
What you neglect to acknowledge Phil is that just because one officer uses different tactics than another officer would, doesn’t make it a bad shoot. Even if the officer used bad tactics (which I do not agree with you that he did) that doesn’t make it a bad shoot.
Keep in mind, by doing what you say and falling back and calling out gun to the other officer, he is also exposing himself to fire from Castille while at the same time he is making it harder for him fire at Castille if it becomes necessary. By “falling back” he doesn’t magically materialize behind cover. He has to cover the distance from Castille’s window back to his vehicle or some other piece of cover. How long would it take someone to point their weapon out the window and fire on the officer? A lot less time than it would take him to get behind cover that’s for sure (not that his patrol car is necessary reliable cover anyway). Plus, while he is doing that, it’s now harder for him to deliver effective return fire. He’s moving, it’s harder to shoot accurately while moving. The range is increasing, it’s harder to hit a target the farther away it is. And, by moving away from Castille, he could actually be putting the girlfriend and the little girl in the backseat in the line of fire.
Look, I’m not saying that falling back would have been a terrible thing to do. But it was certainly not the only option nor do I think the best. I don’t think it would have been the right thing to do and I don’t think I would have done it had I been in that situation.
Excellent post!
Again their was a second officer on scene. Officer should have fallen back and yelled GUN to the second officer
So, finally had a chance to listen to the radio traffic. What, exactly, was deemed “graphic” in it?
Hey Dmitry I’m a POS?! Really. I won’t even begin to say to you what I would if we were face to face because you would cry as is typical of your ilk when confronted by someone like me. However I will say that if your best response to my statement is that I’m a POS then obviously my comment was correct. I’m sure you voted for Hillary and are just outraged but too bad you lack the balls to have ever served behind the gun as I have for 16 years. So enjoy all the freedoms that I and lose like me provide for you in blood. Don’t worry about just continue to whine and cry and castigate the men I the arena. Name call and curse us all you want. I hope you never suffer a violent crime at the hands of thug like Castille but if you do, handle it yourself and don’t call us to come save you.
Sadly, you are POS. With good reason. You equating loss of life by Castille to loss of job, maybe career, by Yanez. Yanez is a coward, as many LEOs are. Don’t feel too bad, you are in good company with rest of municipal LEO’s in this nation. You are trained that way. There is nothing you can say to me that would make me bat an eyelash. But you would strengthen my conviction as to state of municipal law enforcement , in US today. You are, collectively, too dangerous,paranoid, incompetent, and cowardly to do the mission you are assigned. PERF recommends de-escalation training. Core of de-escalation training is to instill that life is precious in everything police do. Great idea! So what training have police been operating under, prior to PERF recommendations? With this de-escalation training. It concentrates on a suspect in crisis. How about de-escalation when the officer is in crisis, panicking, reacting to non-existent threat, or reacting in such a way as to make communication impossible.
Hey Dmitry, if that really is your name, you have an open invite to come say that to my face any day. Not that you would because you are a coward, a quivering heap of fear, who only knows how to whine, cry and call names when he doesn’t get his way. So in short, kma.
Hey USMC, don’t feed the troll…you, the Lt, me and several others have tried in vain to educate this prophylactic poster child, but all it wants to do is scream hate and look for others to blame for his lot in life…it’s unfortunate that there’s people like this out there, but there is no way to effectively communicate with someone like this…it is going to hate and try to provoke us into some type of meaningless debate about that which it does not know…now it is claiming to be an MP…ha! Not too long ago it was an investigator for the Provost Marshal…can’t keep the lies straight…
Because of the utter ridiculousness of its posts I’ve decided to treat this hateful nonsense just as I would if I were face to face with it…I’m just going to nod and smile as the ridiculous, unmerited comments spew out and continue on without sticking to me…no matter how much anyone wants to try, this one just wants to hate and will never get it…
Thank you for your service sir, but just keep in mind when it comes to this yuck, there’s nothing to see here…
Stay Safe!!
Oregoncopper
You are correct sir. Thank you for the reminder. Stay safe out there brother.
There it is right there. Your view of Castille as a thug. He wasn’t. He has no criminal record, none. He quallified for CC and carried as law allowed. Aso you and many LEOs who carry off duty. I myself do not. He notified, as law required, that he was armed. Yanez, as yourself saw him as thug, which I suppose makes it easier for you to pull the trigger. You are cowards, and racists, even if you deny it to yourselves. You are too dangerous to be entrusted to patrol. You are a menace. A bigoted, paranoid, undisciplined menace protected by trifecta of unions, misguided law, and policy. You are tool of law oppression not law enforcement, and it is high time that , us citizens, put an end to your terror!
I served behind the guns. Big ones. My first MOS was Field Artillery, now it is Military Police. Though I do not view my experience or training , as some kind of right to kill citizens, based on my paranoia. When I act , I act on what I know, not what I imagine. The LEO is very much an enemy of citizens. Your disparagement of a murdered citizen, a father, and a law abiding citizen, as a thug, renders you too dangerous, too paranoid, too bigoted to provide law enforcement and security, our society needs. You , the LEO, needs to be stood down, and if you won’t stand down, US the citizenry may have to consider putting you, the LEO collectively, down.
Oregoncopper
Thank you sir for speaking the truth. I couldn’t have said it better myself. Stay safe brother